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A REPLY TO "LYING FOR GOD"

by Brendon Knudson

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Welcome to the Adventist Defense League. Across the internet many have taken it upon themselves to  try and prove that Ellen G. White was a false prophetess, and that Adventism teaches error. Among the many accusations, there is one list we have spent much time investigating. It's a list compiled by critics Dirk Anderson and Robert K. Sanders, claiming that Ellen White contradicted the bible at least eight times. The following is our response to these allegations:


1. Did Satan Deceive Adam?

At one point Ellen White said that Adam "was deceived in a simular way." The claim is that she went against 1 Timothy 2:14, which says that Adam was not deceived. But was everything she said considered? Response



2. Was Israel destroyed by Gluttony?


Is there a difference between gluttony and lust? Our critic seems to think so. Find out for yourselves. Response



3. Can we be certain of our salvation?


Was Ellen White really saying that we can not be certian of our salvation? Or was she trying to teach something else? Those who believe in "once saved always saved" seem to be the ones who mostly have a problem with this one. Let's read what she meant together. Response



4. A sin to be sick?


Ellen White said that it is a sin to be sick... but, what did she mean by that? Could it be that she was talking about our sinful choices, which will produce sickness? Response



5. Christians to make trespass offerings?


Our critics use Hebrews 10:12,18 against a comment made by Ellen White in an article addressed to women and the way they dressed in her days. Why did she end her article with this comment? Response


6. Who spoke to Cain?


Sometimes Ellen White reffered to Jesus as an Angel, as the bible has often done as well. What exactly was our critic trying to tell us with this one? Response



7. Is Jesus the Almighty God?


In a half-quoted sentence penned by Ellen White, it seems like she is saying that Jesus was not God. But, what happens when we quote the entire sentance? Response



8. Does God hate wicked children?

In a couple of letters written to her children from countries like Australia, Ellen White urged her children to maintain their relationship with Jesus. Find out what she meant when she made the above comment. Response

Please Note: Dirk Anderson has two versions of the above list. His second version includes another suppossed contradiction called "Is Slavery a Sin?" Click Here for a Response.

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Other topics of interest:

-80 Questions by Steve Rudd ANSWERED!


Here is a list compiled by an opponent of the Adventist faith which claims to be questions that Sabbath keepers are afraid to answer. Of course, we took them, and answered them one by one. Click on the link above to see their 80 questions, and to see the bible responses we provided. Unfortunately for them, Sabbath keepers are not afraid to answer them, and their are answers.

By the way, they responded to an email we sent them about how we answered each question. No they didn't send us a rebuttel. They said something else. Find out here!


-Point by Point Response to TD Jake's R.S.V.P.

We added TD Jakes to our list or critics because in his sermon he called us out by name. We took the time in listening to his sermon. We heard it dozens of times, and slowed it down to grasp every relevant point he was making against the Sabbath. Then, we put together this article responding to every point. We even made a short video clip to advertise our response, hoping to get his followers attention. Take a look at this response by clicking on the link above. Let us know what you think.

The video we made about this article is called "A Response to T.D. Jake's R.S.V.P. Want to see it? Click here. It's also available at the bottom of the article.


-Online Debate with a Former Adventist


One of our friends from an internet chat room which we've known for some years, read our response to TD Jake's R.S.V.P Sabbath sermon, and took it upon himself to send us a written response to our own points. We read and considered every response he made, and provided a rebuttal hoping he can see that there are responses to his arguments. We got a great reply. He told he us likes what he read, and although he still has many questions, and is not fully decided, is considering his current position against adventist teachings. Take a look at the link provided above. The original responses to TD Jakes are in bold/italic. His responses are in normal type, and our rebuttals are in blue.


-Response to Pastor J. Mark Martin
You know how Adventists have always offered a reward to any evangelical who could cough up a bible verse where it specifically says that Christians should keep the first day of the week holy as a Sabbath? Well, former adventist Pastor J. Mark Martin seems to have taken up this challenge. Although he is not claiming any rewards, he is trying to provide such a verse. But, there's something wrong with the verses he used. Can you guess what that is? Find out by clicking on the link above! You'll learn that the true Sabbath was never replaced or abolished.

There is another page we have where we examine another charge by Pastor J. Mark Martin. He tells us that we Sabbath keepers should stone our members if they break the Sabbath! Really? Find out what we discovered by clicking here.


-Response to Elder Olson's The Bible and Ellen G. White

Here we examine 59 questions which are meant to show that Ellen White contradicted the bible those 59 times. These questions are simular to those compiled by critics Sydney Cleveland and Robert K. Sanders (click here). The biggest difference, however, is how Elder Olson's primery attack is on our Health Message and what Ellen White had to say about it. Click on the above link to see his questions, along with our response, and let us know what you think!


-A Critique of Desmond Ford's critique of the Sabbath School Lesson
Dr. Desmond Ford is most famous for his attacks on our 1844 Investigative Judgment. Following in his foot steps, critics like Dale Ratzlaff have also taken up some of his arguments and have promoted them on their websites and books. In this article, we examine a critique which Desmond Ford did on the 2006 Sabbath School Lesson, which dealt primarily with the Investigative Judgment.

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